"I'd say it's a miracle you got out of there, except that I don't lay those kinds of odds when it comes to either of you." Hawke or Aveline alone were forces to be reckoned with. Together they managed things that kept them the talk of the city in different ways.

"I had heard that about Lothering, believe it or not. It must have been a Void of a spider problem for word to reach us all the way at the Hold." He couldn't remember how he had heard it or in what context, likely talk from Templars who traveled there on duty. "I feel like I can't say that would have been...a waste of talent without delivering some sort of unintended insult, but I genuinely believe that. I suppose it's testimony to how good things can come from bad."